Comments on: WTF California? http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=wtf-california Girl-friendly points of view from women living midlife with humor and grace, keeping it real—staying young and healthy in heart and mind. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:30:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Vegas Linda Lou http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1263 Vegas Linda Lou Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:20:55 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1263 Mormons scare me. Something's not right, folks... something's not right. Mormons scare me. Something’s not right, folks… something’s not right.

]]> By: Allison http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1258 Allison Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:05:01 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1258 I think the nature of change like this is that it goes in fits and starts. While California (of all places) is regressing, gay marriage rights seem to be gaining ground in other places. I know it's frustrating when it affects your life, my sister is gay as is my housemate, but keep the faith, it's changing and those who are clinging to it are dying out. I predict the mainstream right will soon shed its support because they see the writing on the wall. Just gotta keep pushing, some good suggestions here. Hang in there, it's coming! I think the nature of change like this is that it goes in fits and starts. While California (of all places) is regressing, gay marriage rights seem to be gaining ground in other places. I know it’s frustrating when it affects your life, my sister is gay as is my housemate, but keep the faith, it’s changing and those who are clinging to it are dying out. I predict the mainstream right will soon shed its support because they see the writing on the wall. Just gotta keep pushing, some good suggestions here. Hang in there, it’s coming!

]]> By: Barb G. http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1256 Barb G. Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:39:07 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1256 My partner and I live in Utah so the LDS church is everywhere. The best thing about the CA fiasco is that the Gay Community in UT had the opportunity to push the church and the state on gay rights. It did open dialogue and Gov. Huntsman, seeking a moderate political stance for future national ambitions, was supportive. So, what Happens? Huntsman is tapped by Obama for China, leaving us with the Lt. Gov- one of the good ole' Mormon boys with very old school beliefs. brief glimpse of sunshine for us- now back to the shadows! My partner and I live in Utah so the LDS church is everywhere. The best thing about the CA fiasco is that the Gay Community in UT had the opportunity to push the church and the state on gay rights. It did open dialogue and Gov. Huntsman, seeking a moderate political stance for future national ambitions, was supportive. So, what Happens? Huntsman is tapped by Obama for China, leaving us with the Lt. Gov- one of the good ole’ Mormon boys with very old school beliefs. brief glimpse of sunshine for us- now back to the shadows!

]]> By: dearpru http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1250 dearpru Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:05:24 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1250 Cathy, you are SO right. As a California ex-pat, I think that the chauvinism of SF and LA (e.ge, the "we know better" 'tude) stymies the statewide advancement of liberal causes in the end. Those who live inland in the more inhospitable regions of the state--where getting dirt under your fingernails is part-and-parcel of making a living--look askance at the antics of sophisticated big city folk. I don't know what the answer is, but I think Californians interested in progressive issues would be wise to spend some time thinking about outreaching to the farming regions, the high desert towns, and those who commute from the outlying (cheaper housing) regions to work in the big cities. These are the people who build up a resentment factor against the characterization of California as a liberal bulwark. They want some acknowledgement and some say in the matters of state. Just a few thoughts from a public policy geek. Cathy, you are SO right. As a California ex-pat, I think that the chauvinism of SF and LA (e.ge, the “we know better” ‘tude) stymies the statewide advancement of liberal causes in the end.

Those who live inland in the more inhospitable regions of the state–where getting dirt under your fingernails is part-and-parcel of making a living–look askance at the antics of sophisticated big city folk.

I don’t know what the answer is, but I think Californians interested in progressive issues would be wise to spend some time thinking about outreaching to the farming regions, the high desert towns, and those who commute from the outlying (cheaper housing) regions to work in the big cities. These are the people who build up a resentment factor against the characterization of California as a liberal bulwark. They want some acknowledgement and some say in the matters of state. Just a few thoughts from a public policy geek.

]]> By: Cathy http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1249 Cathy Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:34:30 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1249 I think we (at least I) often forget that California is filled with conservatives. Living in LA or the Bay Area okay, liberals are in force, but what about Central CA or behind the Orange curtain? Lest we forget that we have and have had many a Republican governor. California may not be a leader on this issue, but I sure I hope we will follow, and soon! It's outrageous. I think we (at least I) often forget that California is filled with conservatives. Living in LA or the Bay Area okay, liberals are in force, but what about Central CA or behind the Orange curtain? Lest we forget that we have and have had many a Republican governor. California may not be a leader on this issue, but I sure I hope we will follow, and soon! It’s outrageous.

]]> By: mellimel http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 mellimel Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:30:53 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1248 Yes New Hampshire! Good on them. And yes its still a strange time when Iowa sees the light before California but maybe that's just my flyover state chauvinism at work. What do I know? Yes New Hampshire! Good on them. And yes its still a strange time when Iowa sees the light before California but maybe that’s just my flyover state chauvinism at work. What do I know?

]]> By: dearpru http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/2009/06/02/wtf-california/comment-page-1/#comment-1247 dearpru Thu, 04 Jun 2009 03:57:11 +0000 http://www.fiftyisthenew.com/?p=1816#comment-1247 If it's any consolation, New Hampshire's governor just signed gay marriage into law today (Wednesday,June 3rd). One by one, all states will eventually get with the program. It's just really f-ing stupid that California isn't in the lead position on this important civil rights issue. If it’s any consolation, New Hampshire’s governor just signed gay marriage into law today (Wednesday,June 3rd). One by one, all states will eventually get with the program. It’s just really f-ing stupid that California isn’t in the lead position on this important civil rights issue.

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